leaning forward/leaning back
Filed Under (communication, intimacy, possibilities, process) by tinque on 01-02-2010
“I was reading sections of your book again. I can’t read it all at once because there is so much feeling and emotion in it, and it speaks to me in ways no other book ever has. So I read a bit here and a bit there and then digest that so to speak and try to feel out how it would work for me.
The one thing that really struck me is the fact that you actually opened up and went where he was going. Those porn sites. Opened yourself up to it and at the same time to him. So it is not all about leaning back to get what you want, sometimes it is stepping up and forward to be a part of what he is and wants. Or am I seeing that wrong?
It is of course something that you did for yourself. explored and discovered, but I am wondering if what he did had not triggered you in that way and you had not done what you did – would you be where you are today with yourself and with your relationship?
You did that for yourself but didn’t you also do it for the relationship because he was worth it? You together were worth it”
Okay. This is important and needs clarification, firstly what I did back then and also to demonstrate the subtleties which can arise when you are working on leaning back. I understand where you might see this as me leaning forward, but I did not step forward to be a part of him, in other words to change myself to please him, nor did I do this thinking this would be what HE wants. He didn’t ask me to share any of this with him. This would likely have never occurred to him. He DID NOT ask me to participate. I don’t believe he even secretly wished for this.
The unspoken was for me to accept him for who he is, to TRUST him in his love for me, to accept that what he does has no bearing on his feelings for me, not his love nor his lust, that it’s absolutely not a reflection on me whatsoever. He may have had a habit, but he did not have an addiction.
I could not accept all of this at face value though. Many women can but not me. When I don’t “get” something, I have a need to understand, to feel what a person feels and think how they think as closely as possible. In this case the only way I could come up with to delve into K’s his mind and his heart in order to reach an understanding within myself was to immerse myself in his behavior.
Eventually there came a time where I felt compelled to ask for a front row seat right up close and personal, i.e. ask to share it with him that I may see for myself how innocuous it is for him with my own eyes and to also feel this with my entire body.
He had no idea what I was doing for a long time. He had no idea about the work I was doing on myself. He did not know I was exploring porn for myself, but this exploration was not necessarily as a form of entertainment. It was a means to an end, a way of overcoming a deeper fear. This was the only way I felt I could truly meet the fears that porn aroused in me, head on. He had no clue until the day I asked him to show me what he does.
I had a huge resistance to and fear of porn. But why you might ask. I don’t know, and it really doesn’t matter. What does matter is that his porn habit was a trigger for much more important issues inside ME, things I may have not been aware of or if I was, I had up until then, ignored them or pushed them away.
This alone would have been cause for me to look at and explore this dramatic reaction within me complete with intense obsessive thoughts. I was clear that this was something I needed to address inside myself. It meant something much deeper was happening in ME, something having nothing to do with porn.
Delving into porn really came about because the revelation that the enjoyment he derived by looking at it brought me to a place where I had to decide if this was a deal breaker. I had to ask myself, was this thing he did which was a habit and not an addiction, for it did not interfere in our love life, our life as a couple, nor with his own life, something that I absolutely could not live with?
I had to ask myself if all the other really wonderful stuff worth rejecting over this, a silly habit? Was this man, this relationship worth it to me?
Somewhere inside me I knew this was a very special man, special enough to for me to finally deal with my stuff. Yes he was someone worth it enough for me to do this work. If he hadn’t been, then maybe I wouldn’t have braved the elements inside me. For if I had not faced my fears which were not porn but what this triggered in me, then likely we would not still be together and if we were, it definitely would not be the intense passionate, deeply intimate bond we now have.
So not only was there more going on here aside from the porn, I also had something at stake, this relationship. This man who in every other way was a perfect fit, a soul mate if you will, was yes in a sense the impetus, but he was never the instigator.
This was really about me and for me. I had deep issues that had been plaguing me for much of my life. I had never felt good or comfortable inside myself let alone around men. I had always wanted a REAL relationship with a man, and I also wanted a happy relationship with myself. But my fears seemed to prevent me from digging down as deeply as I would have to do to get what I wanted. It took this, something that shook me to the core, but I didn’t do it for anyone else but me.
Sure I hoped he would respond positively. Sure I wished his habits would change too. But my goal was get to a place where whatever happened, I would be okay.
So I wasn’t leaning forward at all. I was in fact leaning back. I was taking care of me.
So though it might look like I was leaning forward to become part of his world in this, I was actually leaning back to take care of my heart and my spirit and my body too, for the only possibility for me in coming to accept if not embrace this “thing” and thus all of K, not just pieces of him, was to grab the bull by the horns so to speak. I had to immerse myself in this “thing” FOR ME, so that I could see for myself how not a threat it is to me. I did it to heal a piece of me.
And as result of my healing I inspired some healing within him which included new thoughts and feelings around porn but more importantly his own heart and spirit and how that relates to us.
As I have said, love brings up anything unlike itself to be healed. The world and especially intimate relationships are a reflection.
xxoo

thank you for sharing your courageous journey, tinque.
I’ve seen this happen in so many relationshps and even with myself….A major trigger,could be anything….and the assumption that the guy is the centre….
I read this today,and it explains so much about my past and how my experiences led me to the now…the triggers helped me dig deep into myself and i am still doing that and each day i discover more and more about myself….It is truly a healing process…thanks for sharing your experience…
Sometimes i forget,and when the not so good feelings come up…the habit of beating myself up and feeling sorry for myself comes up…..now i can notice when that happens and i am allowing myself to feel sad when i need to.
xxoo
Yay Tracey, yes this is the path to healing. And we all falter every now and then, wallow, beat on self, but now you have the awareness to recognize this and sink into the feelings instead of fighting them and this fighting yourself.
xxoo
I have a question.. you said you made the effort to look into it because he was worth it.. so what kind of a man isn’t worth it for self-discovery/dealing with inner stuff? I mean how did you know?
Tessa – That’s a tough yet wonderful question which would make for a great article.
I didn’t really analyze K, yet I did. Some of this was instinctive, but I do remember going through aspects of his character in my head. I had known him three years at this point, so all the cards were on the table. I have said that it takes at least two years to really know someone, especially the older you are (more baggage) and preferably having lived with them for a good portion of that time.
In K’s case there were no red flags. I thought about his habit A LOT. I wanted to be very sure he did not have an addiction, for I didn’t believe I had the strength to deal with an addict. I have high tolerance for a great deal, but my shaky sense of self could not have withstood someone addicted to sex or porn which would instill too great a fear of cheating in me.
Aside from his enjoyment of porn which for many women is so not a big deal, there were no negatives in this man.
It was obvious he loved me deeply/passionately, was very in lust with me, took very good care of me, looked out for me, never went our for boy’s night, always preferred to be with me, was never stingy or mean, never lost his temper, was patient and calm, considerate, and he was enormously affectionate.
Of course all of these qualities still apply if not more so now, and I’m sure there are more.
I was asked by a dear friend who at the time was acting as my therapist and mentor if I was willing to give all of that up for a silly habit he had that had never interfered.
Of course the answer was no. Since porn viewing is SO prevalent among almost every male of every age, there was a very high probability that the next man I met would also be into it.
So it was up to me to deal with my out of proportion reaction to what is to him an innocuous act.
Does this answer your question?
xxoo
wow…interesting…i broke up with my bf because i found out he deleted our pictures or hid them somewhere everytime we had a problem in our relationship and replaced them with pics of naked, closely underage gals, that were super thin, with small breasts and a big ass, which i’m the opposite version. I have a hard time w/it.
Hi Rosa,
Welcome. You gave me enough information here to concern me. I’m happy you saw this for what it was and took care of you.
xxoo
thanks for the welcome…and yes i was concerned too, i have a daughter and as a single mom a red flag came up when i saw inappropriate naked pics of miley cyrus and other very young gals in place of our pictures, he said it’s no big deal, but will he look @ my daughter that way when she is a teenager? did i overreact?
No Rosa it doesn’t seem to me that you overreacted. Even thought most men like to look at nudie pictures, there is still a part of me that doesn’t feel okay with it mostly depending on the context. As a warm up for sex with a partner, okay, as an occasional sex with self session, okay maybe, but as a replacement for you when he’s feeling negative about the relationship? This doesn’t feel good to me.
It’s unlikely he would look at your daughter in the same way. Most men can compartmentalize this.
This situation just seems off to me, and some of it I cannot put into words right now. I think you did the right thing.
xxo