Hi Tinque,
OK…here’s my situation. My boyfriend and I have LOTS of sex. We have it I’d say at least 4 times a week and usually more than that. We both have children, but our children do not live with us (they live out of state…my children with their father and his with their mother). We’ve both stated that if we could have our children with us, we would, and we’re both fine with that and would want that for the other.
Well…my children came down this summer (they spend part of the summer with me and part of it with their dad) and all of a sudden, the sex stopped. I don’t “officially” live with my man, but I do spend most of my nights there, and that didn’t change when my children were here…But…he wasn’t initiating sex with me while they were here. I tried and was rejected twice in a row (as in two nights in a row) and the second time, I cried. We talked about it, and he said hadn’t meant to hurt me.
I told him I was trying very hard to create a balance here because we are used to having each other to ourselves, and I wanted him to know that the sexy, sensual, sexual woman he loves so much is still here…even when the children are too. He asked me not to “try” anything and just let things be what they are. He assured me he still sees all of that in me and was just having a little trouble with the children being in the house (he didn’t have the problem last summer or on any other vacation, and he doesn’t know why it happened this summer but in any case, he asked me not to worry).
So…within a couple of days, he initiated, and we had sex a couple of times (not near as much as normal but it was there, and I felt better). Then my kids went back to their dad’s house.
He and I went on a mini vacation, and we had sex…no problem. When we got back, his children came down. He has not reached out to me sexually since (not even a hint or a tease or anything at all). I’m not doing anything (except a few sexy little words whispered in his ear on occasion) because he asked me not to and because his prior rejection hurt so much.
I guess I just don’t understand (he’s never rejected me before, so that’s new for me…and it hurts) and I don’t know what to do or say. Do you think I’m faced with an entire summer with no sex (and then I worry because the kids will be here on several vacations too)?
I’m feeling kind of insecure about him not being able to see me the same when children are involved, and I’m afraid that will carry over to our lives after they leave (not to mention…what would happen if one of us DID get our kids to live with us??).
I also struggle (because he’s cheated on me in the past…WAY past) with insecurities about him finding someone else to fulfill that need if he can’t see me as a sexy woman anymore. I’m afraid of losing him, and I’m afraid of bringing it up again. I know after we talked about it last time, we ended up having sex, but I’m wondering if that wasn’t just to pacify me (since I cried about the rejection).
I’ve never really been an insecure woman, and I hate how it feels…and I don’t know why I’m so concerned now but I am. Do you have any insight into what this might mean psychologically? I guess I find it hard to imagine a man who likes to have so much sex just all of a sudden giving it up and then picking back up where we started as soon as the kids leave.
My sexual confidence has plummeted, and I’m confused about that because it’s never been an issue with me before…I’ve always had PLENTY of confidence in that area. So…I feel so hurt and scared and undesirable right now…and that’s NOT the me I know and love.
I am open to talking to him about it again, but I don’t really know how to approach the subject in a way that feels inviting to him because…well…we already talked about it and he knows how I feel, so how do I go about it without sounding incredibly pathetic and making things even worse?
Any thoughts or suggestions? Again…thank you so much for taking the time to listen and talk through this with me…
Much Love, Me
Okay,
Here we go. Here’s my answer.
Dear Me,
You didn’t mention the ages of the children, and this could very well be a big reason for the changes from previous years. They may be at an age when they know and understand what sex is, and this night be making your man feel uncomfortable, for whatever reason. He’s always been Dad or Mom’s new “husband” (I use that term very loosely since you do not wish this again, but kids don’t get the difference, not really). Now he’s more than that; he’s a sexual being to them too, and this might make your man feel weird.
Maybe he’s concerned they will hear you or walk in on you. It seems as though he’s having a little conflict within himself, one he may very well not be aware of or have at least not put thought concepts to let alone feelings. Men are not great talking about or dealing with feelings as I’m sure you know, so even with himself, he’s probably pushing the feelings as well any thoughts aside.
I know rejection hurts. The first time I was rejected, I thought I would die. I was soooo hurt, felt soooo rejected. I felt sooooo embarrassed. I get rejected a lot, well not a lot, sometimes, but usually it’s picked up later that evening or in the morning. Usually it’s because he’s had a rough day at work and wants to unwind first, or he’s just too tired or just has too much on his mind. When our men reject us for sex, it’s ever so rarely if ever about US. I will say this again because it’s vital.
When our men reject us for sex, IT”S RARELY IF EVER ABOUT US. I too have to remind myself of this as sensitive as I am. It’s the same with weird moods or withdrawal.
We too have lots of sex, four times a week on average, so I don’t feel deprived anymore or stupid or rejected or less than or not as young or as pretty or as anything as anyone else, at least not in this sort of situation. I don’t feel hurt anymore because I KNOW now that he still wants me, desires me, finds me very sexy, but he’s just not wanting sex in that moment.
This took time, and he was an integral part of it. He quickly saw how hurt I was when this came up, so whenever a situation such as yours arose, he would lovingly reassure me that all was okay. And sure enough a bit later or at the most the next day, it would happen.
I find it very interesting that you say you have tremendous self confidence, and I believe you, yet you falter in this area. Maybe it’s only because it’s not happened before, but think about this. This has really thrown you. How much of you, your identity, your sense of self-worth, your femininity is wrapped up into your sexuality? What does rejection sexually really mean to you?
This is NOT a negative thing. I have a lot of all of these aspects and maybe more intertwined with my sexuality which tends to make me more sensitive to these things, a turn down for example. Is this you too?
I can feel enormously insecure in many ways but not in this situation. Not anymore and mainly because of my man’s sensitivity to me. But I get and still feel why this might affect you so profoundly.
I feel the most deeply connected and loving when bonded in this way. It’s not that I feel validation through this act, yet I feel more whole, more real, more alive, more with him in a way for which I have no words other than profound, yet that’s not quite right. It seems it’s the same for you. I think it’s maybe a more common among women from deep neglect and/or abuse. This is something to consider, how your past abuse could be reflected in this and your reaction around it.
Knowing all of this can allow you to be more sensitive to yourself and to him. You may have to talk yourself down anytime this occurs again, but that’s not such a bad thing. It’s all about awareness. You know he still wants you. You now know his “rejection” is not about YOU.
What happens in these circumstances, something I’m very familiar with, most women do this A LOT, is allowing your head to board a runaway train.
YOU – “He’s rejected me. He doesn’t want me. He’s finding me unattractive. He’s tiring of me. He wants someone else. Someone new. Or. Sex is not so important to him. We’ll never have sex again.”
My little story might go like this.
ME – He’s away, alone, not much to do at night. He’s looking at porn. He’s looking at a lot of porn, maybe all night long. He’s looking every day. He will get so used to those pretty, young things as a visual. When he sees me he will be disappointed. He will want to look at just as much porn when I’m there.”
BLAH BLAH BLAH. It’s ALL LIES. Remember the lying little gremlin voices? They’re screaming at you right now. SHHHHHHHHH. Shut them up. Scream back at them.
He didn’t “end” up having sex with you to pacify you. Men don’t operate that way. He had sex with you because he wanted to, because he finds you enormously attractive, sexy, sensual. And because he loves you.
My advice to you is to leave him be for now or lean back as Rori would say. Let him find his footing in this what apparently is for him a NEW situation, a new and different rhythm, FOR NOW. I doubt his disinterest will continue but if it does, then go ahead and speak up.
Tell him it seems as though something is bothering him. Is there anything he would like to say to you? Tell him that it seems as though the children are interfering with his lust for you, and you feel confused by it. It felt awful when he rejected you, You don’t like feeling that way. It hurt. You feel weird, scared, whatever about initiating again, yet you want him in that way. You miss him. Then see what he says.
Compose a little speech if you have to, and memorize it. I need this because I feel so afraid bringing up uncomfortable to me topics though it is far less scary than it once was, but still I tend to get flustered. You may not.
The only concern I do have is the cheating in the past. In my mind once a cheater always a cheater or at least the potential for it. But and this is important, he KNOWS that you have a great deal of strength and self-respect and though you adore him, if he crosses that line, you WILL walk. He really, really knows that.
It seems to me from everything you’ve written about him that he’s crazy about you too and would not want to risk losing you for a brief thrill filled with nothingness.
So let the YOU you know and love back on to take center stage.
I hope this helps. Let me know what happens and if there is anything else I can help with.
Much love and big hugs,
tinque
xxoo